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<v ->SJC-13344.</v>

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Commonwealth versus Dewane M. Tse.

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<v ->Attorney Sheketoff.</v>

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<v ->Good morning, Your Honors.</v>

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Robert Sheketoff

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for the defendant appellant Dewane Tse.

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I raise only one issue

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that the motion for required finding of not guilty,

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I believe,

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and this court will correct me if I'm wrong,

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that this case is controlled by your recent decision

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in Commonwealth versus Baez.

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In any event,

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the Commonwealth conceded in its opening statement

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that their theory of the case

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was that the defendant was the driver

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of the vehicle that the shooter got out of

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and then shot the victims.

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And in order to get a conviction on that theory,

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they would have to show that my client

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was in fact the driver,

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that in fact the car that they focused on

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that he had rented.

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<v ->So if we cut to the chase</v>

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in a light most favorable

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in looking at Baez and Baxter,

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which are really the cases

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I think in everyone's mind,

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can we say in a light most favorable

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you lose on participation

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given the GPS and the car coordinates,

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but your issue is on shared lethal intent?

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<v ->So I think that is my best issue,</v>

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shared legal intent,

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but I don't think I lose (laughing)

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on the participation either.
<v ->Convince us then, I guess.</v>

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<v ->Okay, this is why.</v>

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This car rented from Maven,

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which was some sort of car-sharing service

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that doesn't exist anymore,

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requires a cellphone of the person that rents it,

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this is the testimony at trial,

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to turn it on.

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So if I'm gonna loan this car to somebody

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as the person that rented it,

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I have to give 'em my cellphone too.

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Otherwise you can't turn the car on.

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And in this case,

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the car was turned off

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immediately after the shooting,

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and it stayed off for approximately 25 minutes,

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and then it was turned on again.

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When it's turned on again,

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it's found some distance,

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but not that far distance,

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from where the shooting took place.

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So no one saw anyone in this car.

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There's video of the car,

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Obviously I would suggest the Commonwealth

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can prove this beyond a reasonable doubt,

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following the victim's car.

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But it's unclear who was in that car.

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<v ->You have two bookends of him renting the car.</v>

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At least he's on video, right?

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<v Robert>Right, but one is--</v>

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<v ->Renting the car and returning the car.</v>

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<v ->Right, one is him renting the car.</v>

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Arguably it's him,

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you can't really tell for sure,

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but someone similar to him

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renting the car two days earlier

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and returning it an hour afterwards.

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<v Gaziano>Can I ask about the two days earlier</v>

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'cause?
<v ->After the shooting.</v>

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I'm sorry.
<v ->After the shooting, yeah.</v>

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<v ->Can I ask?</v>

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There's a statement in the Commonwealth's brief

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that I'm gonna ask your sister about,

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"But the gray car

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eventually drove away without this person."

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Does the person who rent the car

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transfer the car and the key

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to someone else on August 12th?

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Is that what that statement is saying?

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There's a reference, I read the transcript references

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and the exhibit references,

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I can't follow it,

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'cause you have to watch the video,

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which I haven't done yet.

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<v ->Okay, (laughing)</v>

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there's no evidence in the case

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that he was driving the car

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and there's (laughing) no evidence in the case

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that he loaned the car.
<v ->Well, it's a very</v>

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particular question.

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<v ->Yeah, there's no--</v>
<v ->On August 12th,</v>

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I think the evidence is he rented the car.

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But when I read her brief,

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it suggests that he transfers the car

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to somebody else on August 12th,

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but I may be misreading the brief.

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<v ->So I don't think that's the Commonwealth's position,</v>

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but they can speak for themselves.

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There's just no evidence on this topic

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of whether he ever loaned the car to somebody else

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or was driving it on the date in question because--

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<v ->But, Counsel, I mean, and again,</v>

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I know you're saying you're not giving up

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the participation prong,

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which I don't think is a very strong argument for you.

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But nevertheless, you still have CSLI from the phone

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that's attributable to your client

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in the area before the shooting.

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<v ->That's correct, Your Honor.</v>

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But in the circumstances of this case,

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if I'm gonna loan this car to somebody,

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I also have to give 'em my cellphone.

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<v ->I thought you had to just download an app</v>

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on to your own cellphone.

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Maybe I've mistaken the facts there.

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<v ->So whatever we might think of this testimony,</v>

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the testimony is actually clear,

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according to the Maven expert,

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in order to turn this car on and off

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after downloading the app,

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you need the cellphone that downloaded the app.

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It connects to that phone number.

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So it--
<v ->So just</v>

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to follow the thought,

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why can't that be the defendant's phone?

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<v Robert>Well, it is the defendant's phone.</v>

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<v ->Oh, okay, all right, I thought</v>

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you were suggesting it was-
<v ->I'm not saying it's not</v>

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the defendant's phone.
<v ->somebody else's.</v>

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<v ->I'm saying that if he loans</v>

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the car to somebody--
<v ->He owns the phone</v>

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and owns the car?

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->The phone being</v>

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the key essentially.

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<v ->The phone is the key to the car.</v>

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You can't turn the car on and off without the phone.

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And this car is turned on and off.

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In fact, (laughing) it's turned off

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right at the exact moment of the shooting,

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and stays off for 20-something minutes.

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No one sees my client in that car that day.

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There is a picture of someone

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that resembles my client

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returning the car an hour after the shooting.

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No one ever sees a second person in the car, ever.

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No one sees a person leave that car

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and walk down the street.

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That's inference on inference.

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And no one sees the shooter

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get back into the car.

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Whether this car was involved in any way

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other than following this vehicle is,

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I suggest, speculation.

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<v ->Okay, I know you're gonna say</v>

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that you can minimize this,

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but again, the framework still is

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in the light most favorable to the Commonwealth.

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You also have, when the police went to go interview him,

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he conceded that he's rented Acadias before,

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both blue and red.

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And again, I know you're gonna say

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that that doesn't amount to anything

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other than inference upon inference upon inference,

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but at least with the participation part,

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I think we all really are interested

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in the shared legal,

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we get your point on that,

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the shared lethal intent part

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is the part that really is where the rubber hits the road.

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I know we say that there's Baxter and there's Baez,

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but here the Commonwealth lays out

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through the surveillance videos,

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through the CSLI,

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through the information

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with respect to who rented it

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and what was done right after

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an hour after the shooting that it was returned.

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Why isn't this a little bit more

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than what we had in Baxter and Baez?

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<v ->So I would suggest it's a little bit less</v>

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than you had in Baxter and Baez,

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because there's no evidence.

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First of all, in terms of returning the car,

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it had to be returned that day.

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Maybe it's a couple of hours early,

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but it had to be returned that day.

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There's no motive for my client.

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There's no evidence of who the second person was,

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what my client's,

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assuming it was him that was driving,

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what my client's relationship

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with that person would be.

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There's no suggestion that that person

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ever said anything about wanting to kill this person.

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There's no evidence that a gun was shown to my client.

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There's no evidence that there was any talk

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about doing anything to this person

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before it happened.

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And there's no evidence

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that the shooter got back into the car afterwards.

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I think Baez is a stronger case

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for the Commonwealth than this case is,

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because in Baez, he clearly picked up,

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in the light most favorable to the government,

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he clearly picked up the two shooters

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after the shooting.

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So I don't see any basis

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for inferring a lethal intent for my client.

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As this court has said before,

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even if you can infer an intent

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to do some sort of harm to the victim,

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in order to get a first-degree murder conviction,

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or armed, or assault with intent to murder conviction,

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you have to show a lethal intent.

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There is just total guesswork to suggest that,

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I would argue.

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(Robert laughing)

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So I can't emphasize enough (laughing)

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that in the unique circumstances of this case,

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the CSLI does not put my client at the scene

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because if he loaned the car to somebody,

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which is a common phenomenon.

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In Swafford, Mr. Gittens was the owner of the car,

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and that was not enough

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because no one could say

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that the driver looked like Mr. Gittens.

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And Gittens had a motive in that case.

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I suggest that you can't even put my client in the car,

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and you certainly can't put the shooter in the car.

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But I concede that my best argument

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is the state of mind.

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Thank you. (laughing)

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<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

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Attorney Paris.

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(pages rustling)

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<v ->Good morning, may it please the court,</v>

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Molly Paris on behalf of the Commonwealth

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asking that this court affirm

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the defendant's convictions.

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I'd like to start out by distinguishing this case

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from Baxter and their--

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<v ->Can you just start out with a fact question?</v>

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I just don't know what you're saying on page 18

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of your brief.

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Are you saying that?

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I just don't know what it means,

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"The gray car eventually drove away without this person."

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Does that video show

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that somebody else went off with the car

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after he rented it?

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<v ->So, no, what the video shows</v>

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is a gray car pulling into the front

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of the Government Center Garage,

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the defendant exiting the car,

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leaning forward to speak with whoever was driving.

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And then the defendant then walks

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into the Government Center Garage,

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and there's video captured of him

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walking down the hallway past the kiosk.

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So that gray car is just someone

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who dropped him off.
<v ->So it's not the car</v>

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we're dealing with,

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it's a totally separate car,

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right?
<v ->Exactly, totally separate.</v>

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I just got confused.
<v ->Yeah,</v>

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and that's at about 2:16 on August 12th,

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two days before the murder

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and about five minutes before the rental.

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So turning to the three reasons

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why this case is factually distinguishable,

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the first is that the defendant

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was hunting the victims for about 2 1/2 hours

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in Mattapan Square prior to spotting the victims.

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The second is the aggressive following,

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the pursuit from Mattapan Square,

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up Blue Hill Avenue, to Deering Road.

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And the third is that the shooter

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was outnumbered two to one.

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<v ->But in Baez, we had this hunting down, right?</v>

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So if my memory...

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"Baez," I mean Baxter, (laughing)

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we had hunting down essentially, right?

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<v ->Yes, Your Honor.</v>

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But in that case,

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the court found that the maneuvering alone was insufficient,

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and here the Commonwealth's position--

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<v ->You have longer maneuvering in this case</v>

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versus the maneuvering in Baxter.

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<v ->Exactly, it's not only longer in terms of time,</v>

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but in terms of geographic location.

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If you look at the maps,

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you can see the relation from where

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Mattapan Square is.
<v ->But how is that relevant</v>

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for lethal intent when it could be relevant

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to intent to do some type of harm?

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<v ->Well, it's relevant when you take it in conjunction</v>

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with the fact the shooter is outnumbered two to one.

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And as this court found in Baxter and Baez,

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in those cases, the shooter and victim,

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it was a one-to-one ratio

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and both were on foot.

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And the court expressed--

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<v Wendlandt>Baxter, there were two</v>

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co-defendants-
<v ->There were two shooters,</v>

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yeah, right.
<v ->who ultimately killed</v>

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the victim.

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<v ->I believe there was one shooter who--</v>

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<v ->And there was a witness that testified</v>

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that there were two people

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that ran back to the car,

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and one got into the passenger seat,

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one got into the back.

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So there were two people on the street.

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But irrespective of that,

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going back to Baxter

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and the point that Justice Gaziano made,

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all of these things that you point out in your brief

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distinguish this case from Baxter,

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it's just maneuvering, right?

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I mean, it's maneuvering

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that you're putting an overlay in,

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but it's still maneuvering of the car

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and it's a little bit different than even,

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I'm blanking on the name that came after Baxter,

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the Appeals Court,

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it's different than,

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I think it was Saunders or Sanders,

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where at least in that case

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they said the maneuvering,

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you could still infer the lethal intent

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because whomever shot at the other car

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was in the car that maneuvered

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in the way of the people that were ultimately shot.

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This isn't a situation like that,

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where even if we give participation,

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the car drives up, maneuvers,

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somebody shoots from inside the Acadia,

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and then you drive off.

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<v ->Well, it's the aggressive maneuvering,</v>

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plus when you take into conjunction the reconnaissance,

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which is what this court considered in Watson,

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and also again the two to one,

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which is the shooter being the one

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and the two victims

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in the car.
<v ->In Watson,</v>

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there was a beef though, right?

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<v ->And there's no evidence of motive here.</v>

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<v ->Correct, there's no evidence of motive.</v>

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In Watson, I don't believe there was any evidence of motive.

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But regardless, just going back to the two to one,

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this court explicitly expressed concern

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at oral argument in Baxter

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that if there was a one-on-one,

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wouldn't that equally likely mean

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that it was a street fight

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as opposed to a shooting?

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And here what we have is the shooter

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running directly down,

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excuse me, walking directly down Deering Road,

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walking alone,

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firing directly into the Lexus,

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and then sprinting immediately up Deering Road,

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heading in the direction of Wellington Hill Street,

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seconds after the Acadia arrived on scene.

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And all of this happens

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while the GPS puts the Acadia outside of 85 Deering Road.

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So the jury--
<v ->What's the connection,</v>

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if any, between the shooter and the Acadia?

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<v ->The connection is the close geographic</v>

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and temporal proximity.

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So we know the Acadia turns

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onto Deering--
<v ->So we don't have</v>

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the shooter coming out of the Acadia

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or jumping back in?

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<v ->We have video evidence</v>

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of the shooter walking down Deering Road

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and then sprinting up immediately after the shooting.

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<v Wendlandt>But not to and from the Acadia?</v>

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<v ->No, but we have circumstantial evidence,</v>

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and that's sufficient here.

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What we do have is video showing--

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<v ->In Baxter, we actually had the shooter</v>

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coming out of the car

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and then running back into it.

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<v ->And the jury could infer</v>

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that the shooter came from the car

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given that the Acadia

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turned onto Deering Road

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a little after 9:41 in the morning,

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is then seen passing 56 Deering Road at 9:42.

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<v ->Do we have any evidence</v>

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about the number of cars at 9:30 in the morning?

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<v ->In terms of the number of cars--</v>

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<v ->I mean, like was it a dark, desolate area?</v>

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Any evidence of?
<v ->I believe maybe</v>

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there was one other car

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shown on the several-minute video clip

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of 56 Deering Road.

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But an eyewitness testified

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that at the time there was no one else

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aside from the shooter who approached.

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So again, just to finish,

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after the Acadia passes 56 Deering Road,

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the GPS puts the Acadia outside of 85 Deering Road,

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which is just past the intersection of Deering Road

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and Wellington Hill Street,

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about half a block up, for three minutes.

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Then we see the shooter walking past,

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down Deering Road

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in the direction of Blue Hill Avenue

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at about 9:45 in the morning.

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And seconds after the shooting,

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we see him sprinting back up.

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And that's all corroborated by eyewitness testimony.

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<v ->Assume that we give you all of that though.</v>

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Still, the issue is the lethal intent.

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I mean, we said in Baxter,

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perhaps the jury could infer

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that whomever was in the car driving

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intended something to happen

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to the person in that car,

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but what's the evidence

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that it was a lethal something

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to happen to that person in the car?

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We don't have all of the indicia

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that we've had in the other cases,

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where there was a gun,

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we know there was a motive,

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there was some other plus factor

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that was proven to infer the lethal intent.

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How do we get lethal intent here?

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<v ->We know it's lethal intent</v>

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because there's two victims in the car,

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Darrell and Amado,

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and there's one shooter.

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And so the defendant stays at 85 Deering Road

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in this position of safety.

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He knows he doesn't have to get outta the car

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because it's gonna be a quick, lethal ambush.

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And also the shooter's at a disadvantage,

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he's on foot,

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relative to the two victims who are in the car,

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which makes it different from Baxter and Baez

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where the shooter and the victim are both on foot,

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they're on equal footing.

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<v ->So is the mathematics though,</v>

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the only thing that?

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Because no one puts the shooter in the Acadia,

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no one puts the shooter in the Acadia

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after the shooting,

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and no one knows what happens

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to the shooter after, right?

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Because they released a canine,

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they couldn't find anyone,

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they never found the gun,

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they never found the other person.

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So how do we connect that math

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and wouldn't that be inference upon inference if we did?

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<v ->I mean, that's certainly an inference,</v>

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but the Commonwealth

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doesn't have to disprove all inferences.

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The most reasonable inference

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is that where there is no one in the area of Deering Road,

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according to John McIsaac

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who was sitting outside of 34 Deering Road,

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which was about two or three car lengths beyond,

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closer to Blue Hill Avenue,

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but past the red Lexus,

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which was parked outside of 40 Deering Road.

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And what we have is the temporal

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and the geographic proximity, which is key,

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which is the closest thing

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we're getting to direct evidence,

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and circumstantial evidence is sufficient here.

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<v ->We have temporal proximity in all these cases.</v>

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In Baxter and Baez too.

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They're right close by.

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And even in those cases,

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there's a relationship between, (laughing)

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there's a closer relationship between the driver

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and the people accused of being the shooter.

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Here, (laughing)

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they never found the shooter, right?

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It's just a total guess.

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<v ->That's correct.</v>
<v ->By the way,</v>

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does the video even show

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that there are two people in the car

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that's driving away?

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<v ->The video doesn't show who's in the car specifically.</v>

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But again, we know that the--

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<v ->Does it even show that there are two people in the car</v>

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as opposed to it could be just the shooter in the car?

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<v ->No, it doesn't, but we know that it's not just the shooter</v>

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because, again, the GPS pings for the Acadia

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between 9:43 and 9:46 in the morning

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outside of 85 Deering Road,

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which is the same timeframe

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when we see the shooter

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walking past 56 Deering Road,

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and then immediately after the shooting,

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sprinting back up in the direction of Wellington Hill

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to where--
<v ->So what's relevant</v>

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is the driver's state of mind

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at the time the shooter leaves the vehicle, correct?

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<v Molly>Correct, his shared intent.</v>

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00:21:00.900 --> 00:21:02.433
<v ->How do we know that,</v>

512
00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.280
well, what's the evidence that the driver

513
00:21:05.280 --> 00:21:09.570
knew the vehicle was multiply occupied,

514
00:21:09.570 --> 00:21:12.000
as opposed to just having a sole occupant

515
00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:12.963
in the victim car?

516
00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:16.530
<v ->The jury could reasonably infer</v>

517
00:21:16.530 --> 00:21:19.230
that from the fact that one shooter,

518
00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:21.090
one person emerges from the car.

519
00:21:21.090 --> 00:21:23.973
<v ->That's kind of a (laughing) circular argument.</v>

520
00:21:25.530 --> 00:21:28.860
Right, so there has to be one person,

521
00:21:28.860 --> 00:21:31.200
unless it's I guess a self-driving car,

522
00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.387
but (laughing) there has to be one person in the car,

523
00:21:33.387 --> 00:21:34.743
but how do we know that,

524
00:21:36.690 --> 00:21:38.520
when they're following the car,

525
00:21:38.520 --> 00:21:40.410
that they know, "Uh-oh, there's two people,

526
00:21:40.410 --> 00:21:42.180
better get your gun," or whatever, lethal intent,

527
00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:44.130
how are we getting there,

528
00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:46.620
other than speculation and guesswork?

529
00:21:46.620 --> 00:21:47.453
<v ->So we know that</v>

530
00:21:47.453 --> 00:21:50.370
from the shooter's direct path to the Lexus

531
00:21:50.370 --> 00:21:52.263
in his limited time on Deering Road.

532
00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:55.680
<v ->That's when the driver's outta sight though, right?</v>

533
00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.510
<v ->Correct, so the Acadia has just,</v>

534
00:21:57.510 --> 00:22:00.420
minutes before, at about, again, 9:42 in the morning,

535
00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:02.070
passed 56 Deering Road,

536
00:22:02.070 --> 00:22:03.810
heading towards Wellington Hill.

537
00:22:03.810 --> 00:22:05.750
A minute later, he's at 85 Deering Road.

538
00:22:05.750 --> 00:22:10.750
<v ->Is there evidence that the driver of the Acadia</v>

539
00:22:11.490 --> 00:22:16.490
drove past in sight of the victim car,

540
00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:19.170
or is it just tailing it?

541
00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:20.640
<v ->Yes, the jury could infer that</v>

542
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.040
because, again, the Lexus makes a right-hand turn

543
00:22:23.040 --> 00:22:26.670
onto Deering Road at about 9:39 in the morning.

544
00:22:26.670 --> 00:22:29.040
The Acadia then turns right onto Deering Road,

545
00:22:29.040 --> 00:22:30.180
which is a one-way street,

546
00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:32.160
at 9:41:30 in the morning.
<v ->Okay,</v>

547
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:33.540
so he's behind him.

548
00:22:33.540 --> 00:22:35.100
<v ->Correct, he's about a minute and half behind.</v>

549
00:22:35.100 --> 00:22:36.990
Deering's a one-way street.

550
00:22:36.990 --> 00:22:41.280
And we see on video the Acadia driving past 56 Deering Road

551
00:22:41.280 --> 00:22:43.680
at about 9:42 in the morning.

552
00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.680
And we don't see the Lexus ever past that.

553
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.260
The Lexus never goes north of 56 Deering Road.

554
00:22:49.260 --> 00:22:52.290
And that's also corroborated by Darrell's testimony

555
00:22:52.290 --> 00:22:54.753
that they parked outside of 40 Deering Road.

556
00:23:00.270 --> 00:23:03.663
So just briefly turning back to the other issues,

557
00:23:04.590 --> 00:23:07.950
in terms of hunting the victims before the murder,

558
00:23:07.950 --> 00:23:09.510
this is very similar to Watson.

559
00:23:09.510 --> 00:23:11.880
If anything, it's much stronger

560
00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.090
because we have 2 1/2 hours CSLI and GPS

561
00:23:15.090 --> 00:23:16.800
corroborated by video

562
00:23:16.800 --> 00:23:18.030
showing that the Acadia

563
00:23:18.030 --> 00:23:20.790
is circling Mattapan Square.

564
00:23:20.790 --> 00:23:22.860
And we know that at the very latest,

565
00:23:22.860 --> 00:23:24.960
the jury could've inferred that the defendant

566
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.330
saw the victims as they left Brothers

567
00:23:27.330 --> 00:23:28.920
at about 9:31 in the morning

568
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:31.080
as he's turning off Fairway.

569
00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:33.120
<v ->Could I go back to the hunting though?</v>

570
00:23:33.120 --> 00:23:34.800
So the hunting presupposes

571
00:23:34.800 --> 00:23:38.100
that it is Mr. Tse that's the driver of the car

572
00:23:38.100 --> 00:23:40.530
and you heard your Brothers still,

573
00:23:40.530 --> 00:23:43.980
he contests that you were able to prove that,

574
00:23:43.980 --> 00:23:46.410
and considering the delay

575
00:23:46.410 --> 00:23:47.820
from when it was rented

576
00:23:47.820 --> 00:23:50.220
to when this actually went down,

577
00:23:50.220 --> 00:23:52.440
why is that a reasonable inference

578
00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:53.820
that it is the defendant

579
00:23:53.820 --> 00:23:55.680
that happens to be in the car

580
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.630
versus giving that phone,

581
00:23:57.630 --> 00:24:00.030
which acted like a fob,

582
00:24:00.030 --> 00:24:02.820
to somebody else that might have intended to participate

583
00:24:02.820 --> 00:24:04.980
with the person in the car to do so?

584
00:24:04.980 --> 00:24:08.730
In your brief, you say that one of the factors

585
00:24:08.730 --> 00:24:10.920
in favor of that

586
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.890
is that he didn't live in the state,

587
00:24:13.890 --> 00:24:15.480
that he's a Rhode Island resident,

588
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.000
or went back to Rhode Island.

589
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.260
Is that really enough

590
00:24:19.260 --> 00:24:21.180
considering there's two days that a elapses

591
00:24:21.180 --> 00:24:25.590
from when the defendant rents and returns it,

592
00:24:25.590 --> 00:24:28.320
that it couldn't have been given to somebody else?

593
00:24:28.320 --> 00:24:30.540
That it's a reasonable inference that it was him?

594
00:24:30.540 --> 00:24:33.090
<v ->It's a reasonable inference that it's him</v>

595
00:24:33.090 --> 00:24:34.170
because it's unreasonable

596
00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:35.624
that someone would give their cellphone,

597
00:24:35.624 --> 00:24:37.110
which the court has said in Almanar

598
00:24:37.110 --> 00:24:39.540
that a cellphone is his essentially a proxy for the person.

599
00:24:39.540 --> 00:24:40.860
It's unreasonable that someone

600
00:24:40.860 --> 00:24:43.200
would give their cellphone to someone else

601
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:44.190
for hours on end.

602
00:24:44.190 --> 00:24:45.270
And that's what we have here.

603
00:24:45.270 --> 00:24:48.450
We have the GPS corroborated by the CSLI

604
00:24:48.450 --> 00:24:50.490
for 2 1/2 hours,

605
00:24:50.490 --> 00:24:52.860
and then, again, shortly after the murder,

606
00:24:52.860 --> 00:24:55.620
we have the CSLI and the GPS tracking each other,

607
00:24:55.620 --> 00:24:56.820
corroborating each other,

608
00:24:56.820 --> 00:24:59.760
in addition to calls before and after the murder,

609
00:24:59.760 --> 00:25:02.550
as that car is traveling northbound up 93,

610
00:25:02.550 --> 00:25:04.380
and then is in the area of Haymarket.

611
00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:06.450
And then seconds, excuse me,

612
00:25:06.450 --> 00:25:08.220
minutes after the Acadia is returned,

613
00:25:08.220 --> 00:25:09.630
we see the defendant alone

614
00:25:09.630 --> 00:25:12.030
walking out of the Government Center Garage,

615
00:25:12.030 --> 00:25:13.080
and that's on video.

616
00:25:13.080 --> 00:25:14.040
But to Your Honor's point,

617
00:25:14.040 --> 00:25:16.860
the fact that he's from Rhode Island

618
00:25:16.860 --> 00:25:19.590
makes that case different from cases like Baxter

619
00:25:19.590 --> 00:25:23.220
where the defendant was from the Roxbury area of Boston.

620
00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:25.770
So it could've almost been coincidence

621
00:25:25.770 --> 00:25:27.660
that the defendant Baxter

622
00:25:27.660 --> 00:25:30.390
was driving where he was at the time of the murder

623
00:25:30.390 --> 00:25:31.770
because he's from that area,

624
00:25:31.770 --> 00:25:32.640
it's more natural.

625
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.460
Whereas here, this defendant comes from Rhode Island

626
00:25:35.460 --> 00:25:36.930
specifically with a plan,

627
00:25:36.930 --> 00:25:39.573
two days in advance, rents this car,

628
00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:42.270
includes all of his personal information,

629
00:25:42.270 --> 00:25:43.530
including his phone number,

630
00:25:43.530 --> 00:25:45.420
his email address,

631
00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:47.160
that's then verified by Maven,

632
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.450
which is the rental company.

633
00:25:48.450 --> 00:25:50.850
It's a short-term, two-day rental,

634
00:25:50.850 --> 00:25:52.560
which allows him to rent the car

635
00:25:52.560 --> 00:25:53.850
from the Government Center Garage

636
00:25:53.850 --> 00:25:56.340
and not even interact with any humans.

637
00:25:56.340 --> 00:25:59.220
And then, again, in terms of after the murder,

638
00:25:59.220 --> 00:26:01.533
he's seen on video returning the car.

639
00:26:02.760 --> 00:26:04.230
Sure, it was returned that same day,

640
00:26:04.230 --> 00:26:06.540
but he returns it less than an hour after the murder.

641
00:26:06.540 --> 00:26:08.700
The jury could certainly infer that.

642
00:26:08.700 --> 00:26:10.260
<v ->But doesn't his phone go off the grid</v>

643
00:26:10.260 --> 00:26:12.360
for about a half an hour after the murder?

644
00:26:12.360 --> 00:26:15.000
<v ->There's about a 25-minute gap,</v>

645
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.590
but the relevant point

646
00:26:16.590 --> 00:26:18.960
is that there's no video

647
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.640
showing that anyone else that morning

648
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:22.760
was driving the car.

649
00:26:22.760 --> 00:26:25.920
In that case, this makes it distinguishable from Gonzalez

650
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:26.850
where in that case,

651
00:26:26.850 --> 00:26:29.250
there was evidence that the defendant's boyfriend

652
00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:30.300
had borrowed her car

653
00:26:30.300 --> 00:26:32.348
throughout the day of the shooting.

654
00:26:32.348 --> 00:26:33.630
And that isn't the case here,

655
00:26:33.630 --> 00:26:36.360
especially when we consider that the cellphone

656
00:26:36.360 --> 00:26:40.173
is used to operate the car.

657
00:26:42.060 --> 00:26:43.860
<v ->How do you explain that gap though,</v>

658
00:26:43.860 --> 00:26:46.530
if the cellphone is used to operate the car?

659
00:26:46.530 --> 00:26:47.760
The car is in one place,

660
00:26:47.760 --> 00:26:49.170
then there's no information,

661
00:26:49.170 --> 00:26:51.300
and then suddenly the car is in a different place.

662
00:26:51.300 --> 00:26:54.600
<v ->So what we know is that the last GPS point for the Acadia</v>

663
00:26:54.600 --> 00:26:57.150
was at 9:46:32 in the morning

664
00:26:57.150 --> 00:26:59.550
outside of 85 Deering Road.

665
00:26:59.550 --> 00:27:01.710
That's about 25 seconds after the shooter

666
00:27:01.710 --> 00:27:04.290
is last seen passing 56 Deering Road,

667
00:27:04.290 --> 00:27:06.450
heading towards Wellington Hill Street.

668
00:27:06.450 --> 00:27:10.320
And it's about 20 seconds after police arrive,

669
00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:12.210
passing by 56 Deer Road.

670
00:27:12.210 --> 00:27:15.060
So we know that by the time police arrive on scene,

671
00:27:15.060 --> 00:27:17.010
the Acadia's gone and the shooter's gone.

672
00:27:17.010 --> 00:27:18.420
And that's because Officer Burke

673
00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:19.890
testifies when he arrives

674
00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:22.890
at the intersection of Wellington Hill and Blue Ave,

675
00:27:22.890 --> 00:27:24.360
excuse me, and Deering,

676
00:27:24.360 --> 00:27:26.190
he's looking and he doesn't see anyone running.

677
00:27:26.190 --> 00:27:28.557
He doesn't see any cars and--

678
00:27:28.557 --> 00:27:30.420
<v ->But what about the gap though?</v>

679
00:27:30.420 --> 00:27:33.660
Because if you need the phone to operate,

680
00:27:33.660 --> 00:27:35.220
what about the gap?

681
00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:38.070
Because the only testimony that I came across

682
00:27:38.070 --> 00:27:40.890
that talked about the expert testimony

683
00:27:40.890 --> 00:27:45.890
that was offered on this particular rideshare app was,

684
00:27:46.410 --> 00:27:47.760
you might lose the signal

685
00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:50.670
if you're going into a tunnel or something else,

686
00:27:50.670 --> 00:27:53.640
but they're on Deering Road in Mattapan.

687
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.370
And if the return point is Government Center,

688
00:27:56.370 --> 00:27:58.440
what accounts for where that car is

689
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:00.063
if the fob is the phone?

690
00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:03.060
<v ->So we know that there's this gap,</v>

691
00:28:03.060 --> 00:28:06.420
but we know that there's physical distance

692
00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:09.030
between where the GPS lasts pinged

693
00:28:09.030 --> 00:28:10.620
at 9:46 in the morning,

694
00:28:10.620 --> 00:28:11.940
outside of 85 Deering Road,

695
00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:14.310
and where it next pings at 10:11 a.m.,

696
00:28:14.310 --> 00:28:16.020
which is in the area of Mattapan Square.

697
00:28:16.020 --> 00:28:17.910
The jury could reasonably infer

698
00:28:17.910 --> 00:28:20.910
that the defendant traveled to that area.

699
00:28:20.910 --> 00:28:24.600
But regardless, we have corroborating CSLI and GPS

700
00:28:24.600 --> 00:28:27.261
from that point 10:11 in the morning

701
00:28:27.261 --> 00:28:29.370
consistently until 9:43 in the morning

702
00:28:29.370 --> 00:28:30.870
when the car's returned.

703
00:28:30.870 --> 00:28:32.130
After the car's returned,

704
00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:33.450
about 50 seconds later,

705
00:28:33.450 --> 00:28:35.250
there's a final phone call.

706
00:28:35.250 --> 00:28:36.540
And the phone evidence

707
00:28:36.540 --> 00:28:39.210
goes towards the fact of participation

708
00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:41.100
similar to Javier,

709
00:28:41.100 --> 00:28:43.260
where we have calls before the murder,

710
00:28:43.260 --> 00:28:45.750
no calls during the relevant time.

711
00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:47.640
In Javier, that was about 15 minutes

712
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:48.630
leading up to the murder,

713
00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:51.597
and here it's from 9:34 in the morning until--

714
00:28:51.597 --> 00:28:54.960
<v ->But your contention is not that he's the shooter, right?</v>

715
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.670
If he's the driver,

716
00:28:56.670 --> 00:28:59.403
he can be sitting in the car with the car on,

717
00:29:00.300 --> 00:29:03.708
but the shooter... (sighing)

718
00:29:03.708 --> 00:29:06.000
And the shooter is a skinny guy.

719
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.880
He's a 300-pound guy, right?

720
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.700
<v ->Correct, there was never any dispute</v>

721
00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:14.073
that the shooter was a different person.

722
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.280
<v ->I'm confused by your last point then.</v>

723
00:29:17.280 --> 00:29:21.720
So he's not running around shooting anybody,

724
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:23.343
he's driving the car.

725
00:29:24.270 --> 00:29:26.790
<v ->Correct, and so the lack of cellphone evidence</v>

726
00:29:26.790 --> 00:29:29.220
from 9:34 in the morning

727
00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:30.660
until the shooter,

728
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:32.310
until the shooting, excuse me,

729
00:29:32.310 --> 00:29:34.260
shows his act of participation.

730
00:29:34.260 --> 00:29:37.470
And at about 9:33 in the morning

731
00:29:37.470 --> 00:29:40.170
is when we see the Acadia

732
00:29:40.170 --> 00:29:43.140
turn left off Fairway onto Blue Hill Ave.

733
00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:44.430
It's passing the Lexus,

734
00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:47.340
which is parked outside of the post station,

735
00:29:47.340 --> 00:29:49.230
outside the post office, excuse me.

736
00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:52.230
And we know the post office is slightly north,

737
00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:54.660
slightly more inbound than Brothers,

738
00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:56.580
which is where they had just gone

739
00:29:56.580 --> 00:29:58.110
to get their breakfast.

740
00:29:58.110 --> 00:30:00.150
And from that point on,

741
00:30:00.150 --> 00:30:02.670
they're aggressively following the victims.

742
00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:05.310
<v ->I just wanna summarize in my own head,</v>

743
00:30:05.310 --> 00:30:09.180
your way of distinguishing Baez and Baxter

744
00:30:09.180 --> 00:30:11.640
on lethal intent

745
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.450
is there was more tracking,

746
00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:18.210
and there was one shooter and two victims,

747
00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:20.580
is that essentially your argument

748
00:30:20.580 --> 00:30:22.770
for distinguishing those two cases?

749
00:30:22.770 --> 00:30:24.960
<v ->Essentially, I'd add a little more</v>

750
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.630
in terms of the reconnaissance

751
00:30:27.630 --> 00:30:29.040
and then the aggressive following.

752
00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:30.870
In Baxter, we don't have that reconnaissance,

753
00:30:30.870 --> 00:30:34.680
we just have following for a shorter period of time.

754
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:36.330
It almost seemed about like two minutes

755
00:30:36.330 --> 00:30:37.860
from reading the case.

756
00:30:37.860 --> 00:30:41.140
And again, the fact that the shooter

757
00:30:42.209 --> 00:30:43.620
and the victim are one on one,

758
00:30:43.620 --> 00:30:45.570
and both are on foot in those cases,

759
00:30:45.570 --> 00:30:48.030
whereas we don't have that in this case.

760
00:30:48.030 --> 00:30:50.610
And so it's reasonable to infer that the defendant,

761
00:30:50.610 --> 00:30:54.150
again, remained outside of 85 Deering Road,

762
00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:56.310
which was beyond the crest of the hill.

763
00:30:56.310 --> 00:31:00.180
And also in a position similar to Watson

764
00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.340
where the Lincoln was used to block the street here,

765
00:31:02.340 --> 00:31:04.800
he positions the car on a one-way street

766
00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:08.010
having just made that U-turn in front of Morton Street.

767
00:31:08.010 --> 00:31:11.283
<v Gaziano>But he's outta sight of the shooting, right?</v>

768
00:31:11.283 --> 00:31:13.607
<v ->He's out of sight, but he had just driven up Deering Road</v>

769
00:31:13.607 --> 00:31:16.830
<v ->'Cause in Watson, he blocked the street.</v>

770
00:31:16.830 --> 00:31:19.200
I mean, that was the difference in lethal intent in Watson,

771
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.310
where he blocked the street,

772
00:31:20.310 --> 00:31:22.590
the guy gets right out of the car, shoots him,

773
00:31:22.590 --> 00:31:24.540
and then gets back in the car with a gun.

774
00:31:24.540 --> 00:31:27.810
Here we have the defendant

775
00:31:27.810 --> 00:31:31.290
parked outta sight, over the crest of a hill,

776
00:31:31.290 --> 00:31:36.290
similar to the geographic issues in Baez and Baxter, right?

777
00:31:38.850 --> 00:31:39.750
<v ->Yes, but my point</v>

778
00:31:39.750 --> 00:31:40.583
in terms of the positioning of the car--

779
00:31:40.583 --> 00:31:42.090
<v ->I don't think Watson helps you</v>

780
00:31:42.090 --> 00:31:44.943
because Watson, they're right there at the scene.

781
00:31:45.810 --> 00:31:47.640
<v ->Well, in Watson, this court,</v>

782
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.080
I understand what Your Honor's saying,

783
00:31:49.080 --> 00:31:50.700
though in Watson, what this court says

784
00:31:50.700 --> 00:31:53.040
is that the car positioned Lincoln

785
00:31:53.040 --> 00:31:54.810
to block anyone else from interfering.

786
00:31:54.810 --> 00:31:58.530
And my point here is that having just made the U-turn

787
00:31:58.530 --> 00:31:59.520
on Blue Hill Avenue,

788
00:31:59.520 --> 00:32:00.990
passing the police station

789
00:32:00.990 --> 00:32:03.720
at the intersection of Morton Street and Blue Hill Ave,

790
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.370
the jury could reasonably infer

791
00:32:05.370 --> 00:32:07.740
that the defendant positioned the car

792
00:32:07.740 --> 00:32:08.820
to quickly get away

793
00:32:08.820 --> 00:32:10.800
and avoid any interference from police,

794
00:32:10.800 --> 00:32:13.470
where we know that Deering's a one-way street

795
00:32:13.470 --> 00:32:14.880
and that the police station

796
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.170
is on this specific corner

797
00:32:16.170 --> 00:32:17.460
that they had just driven past

798
00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:19.023
upon turning onto Deering Road.

799
00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:21.570
I see that my time has expired,

800
00:32:21.570 --> 00:32:23.400
unless the court has any further questions,

801
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:24.573
I'll rest on my brief.

 