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<v ->SJC 1 3 4 2 9</v>

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Kathleen M. Cerone, and another V J&amp;K Furnace

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<v ->And Attorney Williams, Whenever you're ready.</v>

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<v ->Good morning, And may it please the court.</v>

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I am Thalia Williams.

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I represent the appellant in this matter and

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I'm joined by my co-counsel, Jesse Belcher Tammy.

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This is a, a fairly simple case in the sense

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that the narrow issue that needs to be resolved

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by this court is whether or not a severance

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of a joint tenancy took place by operation

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of a decree is simply incorporated

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a party's agreement. It is my client's position

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that that of course has not taken place.

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Joint tenancy is such a significant property

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right, and it is required to be created expressly

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and in writing in an instrument.

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So it would follow that in order

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to waive that right that waiver would

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also need to be expressed. This was a situation

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where there was a partition case.

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Yes, there is a Compromise Agreement,

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but the Compromise Agreement is completely silent

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as to how this property will continue to be held.

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The agreement is silent as to whether or not

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this benefits heirs, successors and assigns

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if somebody were to pass away.

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It does not state that there's any change

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in the way that the parties are

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holding this property and it simply just

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contemplates a future sale. Yes.

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With some parameters, but...

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<v ->But doesn't, I mean, the appeals court decision</v>

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which is detailed, talks about possession, right?

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That you're,

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there's no longer possession... Right?

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<v ->Right. But I...</v>

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<v ->The person clears out.</v>

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<v ->Your Honor, I think that there's a very clear</v>

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distinction between legal possession and

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physical possession, in this matter.

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This man had vacated in advance of them

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ever entering into this agreement that

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is reflected in his affidavit of objections.

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It was a matter of him returning to remove some property.

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<v ->Isn't The physical possession con, sort of converted it?</v>

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It, it, it, it takes on a legal...

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Um, it becomes legal possession when you enter

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into agreement on that, doesn't it?

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<v ->I would disagree, your Honor.</v>

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It doesn't state that he can never return.

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And although I understand that you can't,

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dis-, that you can't credit my clients.

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<v ->It's not, the issue is not whether he never returns.</v>

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It's whether he has the right to possession,

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the same Right of possession, right?

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<v ->And I would argue that legally he does.</v>

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<v ->But what's the basis for that?</v>

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<v ->That he has simply just vacated the property.</v>

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<v ->But no, he's entered into an agreement</v>

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that legally obligates him to leave.

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<v ->But it doesn't indicate that he can</v>

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never return, and it does not indicate

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that the ownership has, in any way, been changed.

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If you think about it in the context of

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let's say a separation agreement,

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somebody might move out in the interim,

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while a divorce is pending. They might be

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joint tenants and by them moving out

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they might even enter into a temporary agreement

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that that person could never return.

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But that doesn't necessarily change

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their legal ownership of that property,

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and ownership of that possession.

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And in a divorce context...

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<v ->This was the resolution of a petition for partition.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->And they both agreed to this deal,</v>

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and that deal was codified through the decree.

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<v ->Correct.</v>

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<v ->And so that ended the petition for partition, right?</v>

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<v ->I don't think, it did not entirely.</v>

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If you follow the way the partition statutes

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work, in order for something to operate

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as a partition decision it has things that

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have to be in there. There is an example

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in the record of that, but one of the main

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examples...

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<v ->What if they had never, your client,</v>

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had never petitioned for partition?

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<v ->They would still...</v>

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<v ->And instead had agreed to the settlement agreement?</v>

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<v ->I guess I'm misunderstanding the question.</v>

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So she did.

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<v ->Yes you are. So here's the question.</v>

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The question is, what if I'm, I'm a joint tenant.

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<v ->Yep.</v>

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<v ->Right? And I no longer wanna be a joint tenant.</v>

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Just like your client didn't wanna be a

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joint tenant and instead of needing to file

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a court action, I say, Hey dear joint tenant,

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I no longer wanna own this with you.

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Let's enter into an agreement.

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<v ->Well, as long as there were writing that</v>

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<v ->Like a settlement agreement?</v>

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<v ->I, I'm not sure that a settlement agreement</v>

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is enough, but one joint tent...

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<v ->Was it in writing?</v>

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<v ->The settlement agreement? Yes. But it does not</v>

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<v ->So what, what about it was deficient?</v>

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<v ->There's no reference within the agreement.</v>

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The four corners of the agreement as

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to how it's held, and it's already been

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acknowledged that it's held as joint tenancies,

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'cause that's part of the initiating process.

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There's nothing in the agreement that talks

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about that changing. This isn't similar to

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a divorce where we know we have a law

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that once the "NISI' period ex, you know

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it automatically switches to ten

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tenancy in common. That's not the circumstance

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that's here. They entered into this deed,

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everybody agrees, time and title is not an issue.

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Yes. They entered this as joint tenancies.

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Now we're at a situation where that

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has never been changed in writing.

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They agreed to certain things to avoid the rest

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of the lawsuit, to avoid the appointment

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of a commissioner and to avoid that sale process.

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<v ->And to terminate the petition for partition...</v>

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<v ->But it didn't terminate their individual</v>

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property rights and, and when...

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<v ->But, but, but why?</v>

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I mean you say that, and that's the key question.

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->But why?</v>

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<v ->It's missing, because it's missing</v>

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too many things, and that's, partial,

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Part of that comes from the partition statutes.

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When you have a partition judgment

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it says you need to have these things

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for it to be sufficient. One of those

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things is a holding or a finding

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of how, the nature of how these people

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own this property. There's a case for,

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I couldn't tell you the name off not my head,

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but for example, there's a case that

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held that that decree over here,

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even though it said it was tenants in common

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and the petition said it was joint tenants,

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you're stuck with what came out over here.

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This document is silent as to those issues.

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There's nothing in that document that says we're

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changing the joint tenancy. There's nothing

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that would've informed Jane, who was "pro se"

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at the time, that those rights were

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gonna be changed. There's the intention

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could have been because it's not in

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there that they wanted it to remain

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as a joint tenancy with rights of survivorship.

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So what this really comes down to in this decree...

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<v ->What, what about the agreement gives rise</v>

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to that interpretation?

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<v ->I'm sorry?</v>

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<v ->Did they, what about the agreement</v>

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that they wanted to maintain it as joint tenants?

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<v ->It is not expressly waived.</v>

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<v ->So it's the silence in the agreement.</v>

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<v ->The silence in the agreement. There is</v>

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also no affirmative statements that say

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that this is going to benefit

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their heirs, successors, and assigns.

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It is just between the individuals.

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I think we'd be in a very different

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circumstance right now if it said

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I want these rights to go through my estate.

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<v ->So again, it's the silence.</v>

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<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

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<v ->You're standing on the silence in the agreement</v>

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<v ->Correct.</v>

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<v ->As to how they're gonna hold it in the future.</v>

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<v ->Correct. And since this is such a</v>

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significant property right that you

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cannot create unless it's absolutely expressed.

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<v ->Can you determinate it, unless it's absolutely expressed?</v>

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<v ->You can terminate it by alienation.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v ->Which in this case, there was</v>

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no other alienation. There was just the decree.

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Neither party had taken their interest

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and deeded it out to anybody else or

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done anything under the law that

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would have been deemed a different conveyance

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or alienation. And we know from

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the recent holding in battle, that conveyancing

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is the point in time where the severance occurs.

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<v ->For which unity?</v>

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Time, title, possession?

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<v ->For all of them essentially.</v>

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<v ->So you read battle to apply to</v>

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all four unities?

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<v ->Yeah. I think that at a time of</v>

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a conveyance all, all of the unities are gone

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because the, the interest is completely

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extinguished. In, in this case, un-

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unless it was severed, Jane owns this

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property outright 'cause it fully vested

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in her the moment that Mr. Cerrone passed away.

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So it really comes down to...

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<v ->Right, at the beginning of that question is</v>

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what's before us, is if it was

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not severed, the question is does

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the settlement agreement sever it?

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And your position is no, because it's silent?

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<v ->Because it's silent as to these issues.</v>

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I also think that it doesn't even meet the normal

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basic requirements of a settlement agreement.

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Even if you were to just purely remove it

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from the partition realm...

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<v ->What are those basic requirements</v>

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of the settlement agreement? I'm not aware.

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<v ->Very clear material terms that have finality</v>

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and then everybody can move on.

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This wasn't the type of agreement

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where everything was done. There was

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a two year period of time where there

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could be a refinancing and other

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things could come up. There aren't terms

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requiring her to sell. If you read that

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just on the four corners, her only obligation

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is to list the property for sale.

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It may imply or contemplate a future sale

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but it doesn't require it

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it doesn't even include parameters as

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to when an offer needs to be accepted.

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So, arguably, she could be in compliance

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with this by listing it, in perpetuity, and

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never agreeing to any of the offers that came.

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<v ->Isn't there an implied good faith?</v>

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<v ->Well, I'm not suggesting she would</v>

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act in in bad faith. I'm suggesting

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that the only clear item in the agreement

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that she has to follow, is to list it,

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and then once listed, if ultimately sold,

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there are other things that need to be done.

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But in terms of analyzing this with battle,

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it, it's the same as battle.

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Different circumstances, different points

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in the procedure but the conveyancing

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event is contemplated in the future.

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And that is when it would,

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all the rights would be cut off,

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is when that sale, in the future, happens.

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(Silence)

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(paper shuffling)

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<v ->Anything else?</v>

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(shuffling pens and paper)

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<v ->Unless the panel has additional</v>

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questions for me I think I'm going

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to rest on our briefs.

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<v ->Okay. Thank you very much.</v>

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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(paper shuffling)

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<v ->Okay, Attorney Esposito.</v>

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<v ->Good morning. May it please the court,</v>

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Mark Esposito for the plaintiff, Kathleen Cerrone.

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(paper shuffling)

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This case is completely different from battle

273
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and battle was limited to the context

274
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of partition by sale. This was not a partition by sale.

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<v ->Why doesn't the settlement agreement here</v>

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fail to extinguish the joint tenancy,

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in that, the terms of the agreement

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seem to contemplate future action?

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<v ->At some point in the future the</v>

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joint tenancy will be terminated, but...

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<v ->Well they, they do contemplate future action.</v>

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But there's also, it, it is a decree

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of the court and they, the parties,

284
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explicitly agreed that it would enter

285
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as, "The Judgment" in the case.

286
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The fact that it is "The Judgment"

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means that the partition proceeding

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has terminated and a completed partition,

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by definition, severs a joint tenancy.

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<v ->But, but the termination of the</v>

291
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partition proceeding, which is hard to say,

292
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does that necessarily mean that

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there has been a partition?

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Right?

295
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So instead of executing

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on what, um, Jane wanted,

297
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the partition, the parties entered into agreement

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to in the future,

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you know,

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terminate the

301
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joint tenancy, and that terminated the partition

302
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but didn't result in a partition, I think is the

303
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the theory behind Jane's position here.

304
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<v ->I agree that that is the theory,</v>

305
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<v ->But why is that wrong?</v>

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<v ->Because the unities of possession</v>

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and interest were severed.

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<v ->But, but yeah, so explain that.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Cerrone no longer</v>

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had the right

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to move back into the property.

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I think it's clear, again, under sort of

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ordinary principles of good faith,

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if the agreement is you're gonna remove all

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remaining property by a certain date,

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you can't come back the day after

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and say, "Okay, well now I'm moving back in."

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And their interests were different,

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because there's a possibility that Ms. Furnace

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at her unilateral option, she's either gonna

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own the entire property

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or she's gonna sell

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the property and Mr. Cerrone's gonna be

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entitled to a portion of the proceeds.

325
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But in either case, this is at

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her sole discretion. Their interests

327
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are no longer aligned or they're

328
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no longer the same.

329
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And so those unities

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are, are both severed. There's also

331
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the issue that,

332
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so again

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we say

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the partition was completed, this was a final order

335
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of the probate court, and the court

336
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necessarily has the authority and the jurisdiction

337
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to enforce its own final orders.

338
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So even if it were the case that

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the joint tenancy wasn't severed,

340
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and of course we don't concede that.

341
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Because you know, we think it was severed

342
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both by the destruction of the unities

343
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and by completion of the partition.

344
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But even if that weren't the case,

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there's a final order of the probate court

346
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that mandates that Ms. Furnace take actions

347
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that she has already agreed to take.

348
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And it's her refusal to take those actions,

349
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which she agreed to take, and which she was

350
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ordered to take by the probate court,

351
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that gave rise to the contempt proceeding

352
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that led to us being here.

353
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The...

354
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<v ->So I don't actually know the</v>

355
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answer to this question. What if,

356
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you and I enter into a contract to do something

357
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in two years and then I drop dead?

358
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Can my heirs enforce that contract?

359
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<v ->I think it would depend on the</v>

360
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on the circumstances and what the terms were.

361
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We also have in this...

362
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<v ->Well let's just say we enter into this contract,</v>

363
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the one, the settlement agreement.

364
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<v ->So I, which party are you in this example?</v>

365
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(laughter)

366
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<v ->Whoever died, I don't remember.</v>

367
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<v ->So yeah, I mean you would be</v>

368
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able to enforce it. There is also

369
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the issue here that, this wasn't just

370
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a contract to do something in the future.

371
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It wasn't just, "In two years,

372
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we're gonna see what happens..."

373
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This was, every month over the next

374
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two years, you're gonna, Mr. Cerrone,

375
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is gonna make these, half the mortgage payments.

376
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This is a valuable benefit that Ms. Furnace

377
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is getting, and she cashed those checks.

378
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She got that benefit. She initiated

379
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a partition proceeding, which by definition,

380
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is gonna sever the joint tenancy.

381
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So she can't have been surprised that, at the end

382
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of the proceeding she no longer owned

383
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the property jointly, with Mr. Cerrone.

384
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<v ->I, I do have a question, if you can hear me.</v>

385
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<v ->Yes.</v>

386
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<v ->And that, and that is how would,</v>

387
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what happened in this case, where you've got

388
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a, a decree, how would other parties, a mortgagor,

389
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or people interested in the property,

390
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or if somebody wants to put a lien on something,

391
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how would they know this was partitioned?

392
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<v ->So in this case the mortgagor,</v>

393
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sorry the mort-, I mean the, the bank,

394
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the, the hol-, holder of the mortgage

395
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was a party to the initial proceedings.

396
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So they had actual notice. The appeals court

397
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in this case sort of cautioned, in a footnote,

398
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that it would perhaps have been wiser

399
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for the decree to be recorded after it was issued

400
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which was not something that happened

401
00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:47.340
prior to Mr. Cerrone's death. This is not

402
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a case where there's a bonafide.

403
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<v ->So in general, counsel, what happens when a decree</v>

404
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in other circumstances is not recorded?

405
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<v ->So if there were a bonafide purchaser</v>

406
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for value who had come in and bought

407
00:17:01.770 --> 00:17:04.590
this property and, you know, somehow

408
00:17:04.590 --> 00:17:09.390
Ms. Furnace got all the money, there, perhaps,

409
00:17:09.390 --> 00:17:11.040
wouldn't be a claim by the estate

410
00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:13.413
of Mr. Cerrone to try and claw back,

411
00:17:14.760 --> 00:17:16.470
I don't know, something from the purchaser

412
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because they didn't have notice.

413
00:17:17.970 --> 00:17:20.460
You know, they didn't know. But that's,

414
00:17:20.460 --> 00:17:21.960
that's not what happened here.

415
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What happened here...

416
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<v ->Right. I know that, but I'm just, I'm thinking</v>

417
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about other cases and I'm thinking about how we

418
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frame this and part of recording things is to

419
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put others, put the world on notice if there is,

420
00:17:34.237 --> 00:17:36.810
if there is an interest in the property.

421
00:17:36.810 --> 00:17:39.450
So how is the world on notice by this decree?

422
00:17:39.450 --> 00:17:43.440
<v ->So, so in this case, I'm not sure</v>

423
00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:44.790
it's in the record, I believe there actually

424
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was a list pendings filed at the time the

425
00:17:47.670 --> 00:17:51.757
petition was initiated. But in addition to that

426
00:17:51.757 --> 00:17:54.333
partition statute,

427
00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.509
I believe in section seven...

428
00:17:59.509 --> 00:18:01.676
(silence)

429
00:18:02.884 --> 00:18:06.782
(silence continues)

430
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So upon the filing of a petition for partitioner,

431
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the petitioner shall forthwith cause to be filed

432
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in the regi-, in the registry of deeds

433
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for each registry district or any of the land

434
00:18:18.780 --> 00:18:22.320
included in the petition, lies a notice of the same,

435
00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:24.470
containing a brief description of the land.

436
00:18:25.564 --> 00:18:27.840
And then it goes on to,

437
00:18:27.840 --> 00:18:30.180
just outline what it is

438
00:18:30.180 --> 00:18:33.690
that needs to be included in that notice.

439
00:18:33.690 --> 00:18:35.970
But, so in this case had someone wished

440
00:18:35.970 --> 00:18:38.770
to purchase the land they would have seen

441
00:18:40.366 --> 00:18:42.930
that a partition proceeding was pending.

442
00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:44.430
Again, I believe there also was a

443
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list pendings filed. That person certainly

444
00:18:47.190 --> 00:18:48.930
would've had a duty

445
00:18:48.930 --> 00:18:51.180
to or, they at least

446
00:18:51.180 --> 00:18:54.090
would've been on notice

447
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that there was a

448
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potential issue that

449
00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:58.150
needed to

450
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be investigated.

451
00:19:00.060 --> 00:19:04.830
<v ->But the, but section seven it says they shall</v>

452
00:19:04.830 --> 00:19:05.853
file a notice,

453
00:19:06.939 --> 00:19:08.250
would that,

454
00:19:08.250 --> 00:19:09.540
but if, if that

455
00:19:09.540 --> 00:19:13.080
isn't done under section seven, a proper notice

456
00:19:13.080 --> 00:19:14.913
then would there be no partition?

457
00:19:16.410 --> 00:19:19.125
Would the statute have been met?

458
00:19:19.125 --> 00:19:21.270
<v ->So I mean, it, it, it would depend</v>

459
00:19:21.270 --> 00:19:23.310
on the circumstances. But the, the case

460
00:19:23.310 --> 00:19:27.150
of Nichols v Nichols, it's it's a 1902 case,

461
00:19:27.150 --> 00:19:29.743
but it's still good law. And it says

462
00:19:29.743 --> 00:19:33.184
that, "The mere fact that an agreement

463
00:19:33.184 --> 00:19:36.363
of the parties does not,

464
00:19:37.860 --> 00:19:38.693
you know,

465
00:19:38.693 --> 00:19:41.340
parrot all of the terms of the partition statute"

466
00:19:41.340 --> 00:19:44.820
doesn't mean that it's not enforceable.

467
00:19:44.820 --> 00:19:45.653
So if you make a deal...

468
00:19:45.653 --> 00:19:47.693
<v ->That's, that's not saying that they</v>

469
00:19:47.693 --> 00:19:50.280
can just because they don't parrot the terms

470
00:19:50.280 --> 00:19:52.380
of the statute, it's not enforceable.

471
00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:54.060
What, what we're really getting at is

472
00:19:54.060 --> 00:19:56.160
if you don't fulfill the requirements of the

473
00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.128
statute by filing a notice is required under this,

474
00:20:00.128 --> 00:20:04.144
did your tenants invoke this section?

475
00:20:04.144 --> 00:20:06.343
(silence)

476
00:20:06.343 --> 00:20:09.663
Mention the partition statute? What does it say?

477
00:20:11.580 --> 00:20:14.613
<v ->I'm, I'm sorry I wasn't able to hear that question.</v>

478
00:20:14.613 --> 00:20:17.580
<v ->I'm, I'm wondering whether the (indistinct)</v>

479
00:20:17.580 --> 00:20:20.910
that you say is, was filed about this?

480
00:20:20.910 --> 00:20:23.310
Did it invoke

481
00:20:23.310 --> 00:20:26.003
the partition statute?

482
00:20:26.003 --> 00:20:30.845
Did it say this is a partition petition pending?

483
00:20:30.845 --> 00:20:33.433
<v ->I mean, as a factual matter, I,</v>

484
00:20:33.433 --> 00:20:35.133
I don't recall the answer to that.

485
00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:39.210
But again, this is not a case where

486
00:20:39.210 --> 00:20:43.080
there's a bonafide purchaser for value

487
00:20:43.080 --> 00:20:46.110
who is being, you know, somehow prejudiced

488
00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:48.480
because they didn't know what was going on.

489
00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:50.530
This is a case where the very parties

490
00:20:51.538 --> 00:20:54.030
to the agreement are the parties to

491
00:20:54.030 --> 00:20:57.330
this litigation. Ms. Furnace knew full well

492
00:20:57.330 --> 00:20:59.760
what she had to do under the agreement.

493
00:20:59.760 --> 00:21:02.190
She initiated the partition, she signed

494
00:21:02.190 --> 00:21:05.580
the agreement, she cashed the checks,

495
00:21:05.580 --> 00:21:09.480
came time for her to perform her end of the,

496
00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:11.730
the deal, which was also ordered in the,

497
00:21:11.730 --> 00:21:14.700
in the decree. And she didn't, she no longer

498
00:21:14.700 --> 00:21:16.230
liked the deal so much at that point

499
00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:17.700
because now it was time for her to

500
00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:20.940
fulfill her obligations. But so, the sort of...

501
00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:24.660
<v ->Well our, alternatively, she had now full</v>

502
00:21:24.660 --> 00:21:27.240
ownership with no joint tenant, I think,

503
00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.550
is what her position would be.

504
00:21:29.550 --> 00:21:31.140
<v ->Yeah, I mean that, that would be</v>

505
00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:34.650
her position based on the completed partition,

506
00:21:34.650 --> 00:21:36.600
based on the destruction of the unities.

507
00:21:36.600 --> 00:21:37.950
I mean, I, I would say that's simply

508
00:21:37.950 --> 00:21:40.950
not accurate. But even, even if we were

509
00:21:40.950 --> 00:21:44.160
to say for the sake of argument that

510
00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.070
the joint tenancy was not severed,

511
00:21:47.070 --> 00:21:48.480
there's still the issue that this

512
00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.550
was a final order of a court.

513
00:21:50.550 --> 00:21:55.550
So regardless of who has title to the property

514
00:21:55.560 --> 00:21:57.420
there's a binding court order that

515
00:21:57.420 --> 00:22:00.120
was never appealed from. This was the final

516
00:22:00.120 --> 00:22:02.910
decree and the partition proceeding and the

517
00:22:02.910 --> 00:22:06.990
decree mandated that Ms. Furnace comply

518
00:22:06.990 --> 00:22:09.090
with the steps that were set out

519
00:22:09.090 --> 00:22:12.150
in the agreement. So it doesn't matter

520
00:22:12.150 --> 00:22:13.080
who holds title.

521
00:22:13.080 --> 00:22:15.000
<v ->Just remind me the agreement requires her to</v>

522
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.080
list the property.

523
00:22:16.080 --> 00:22:19.140
<v ->She had to list, either list it for sale by,</v>

524
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:22.140
I believe June 1st, 2020, or she needed

525
00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:24.216
to refinance and

526
00:22:24.216 --> 00:22:25.860
make a payment to

527
00:22:25.860 --> 00:22:30.457
Mr. Cerone by September 1st, 2020.

528
00:22:30.457 --> 00:22:33.330
The drafting of that agreement I would say

529
00:22:33.330 --> 00:22:35.730
is certainly not ideal, in a couple of

530
00:22:35.730 --> 00:22:39.420
different respects but it was pretty clear

531
00:22:39.420 --> 00:22:41.703
what the intent of the parties was.

532
00:22:44.304 --> 00:22:48.330
And there is, I would not want to

533
00:22:48.330 --> 00:22:51.792
be in the position of arguing that

534
00:22:51.792 --> 00:22:54.793
my client's been ordered to list a property

535
00:22:54.793 --> 00:22:57.750
but that means they can just leave

536
00:22:57.750 --> 00:23:00.030
it listed forever and never sell it.

537
00:23:00.030 --> 00:23:01.920
I mean, I wouldn't wanna make that

538
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:05.673
argument in court. I think it's pretty clear

539
00:23:05.673 --> 00:23:09.540
what the parties were obligated to do

540
00:23:09.540 --> 00:23:11.160
under the agreement, which again,

541
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:13.890
there are drafting problems with it

542
00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:16.200
but the whole purpose of the partition

543
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.330
was that Ms. Furnace no longer wished

544
00:23:18.330 --> 00:23:20.610
to own this property with Mr. Cerrone.

545
00:23:20.610 --> 00:23:23.460
<v ->And in that context, the, the requirement</v>

546
00:23:23.460 --> 00:23:25.290
to list takes on a new meaning,

547
00:23:25.290 --> 00:23:26.310
is what you're saying?

548
00:23:26.310 --> 00:23:27.810
<v ->Yeah, I mean, this is in the context</v>

549
00:23:27.810 --> 00:23:30.349
of a partition proceeding, where

550
00:23:30.349 --> 00:23:33.060
ordinarily, you would have partition

551
00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:33.893
by

552
00:23:36.120 --> 00:23:37.620
physical division, which,

553
00:23:37.620 --> 00:23:40.020
which is favored but not practicable

554
00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:43.653
for a single family home on, on a,

555
00:23:44.520 --> 00:23:47.070
a lot with only room for one home.

556
00:23:47.070 --> 00:23:49.800
So necessarily, if you can't divide it,

557
00:23:49.800 --> 00:23:52.053
the only other alternative is sale.

558
00:23:53.100 --> 00:23:54.840
And this is the proceeding that she brought.

559
00:23:54.840 --> 00:23:57.120
She knows there's gonna be a sale of the

560
00:23:57.120 --> 00:24:00.450
of the property or, I mean, or she can

561
00:24:00.450 --> 00:24:03.750
buy out Mr. Cerrone's interest, which again,

562
00:24:03.750 --> 00:24:06.810
is essentially a sale of the property.

563
00:24:06.810 --> 00:24:09.730
So nothing that happened here was

564
00:24:11.486 --> 00:24:16.254
anything that was outside of the scope of,

565
00:24:16.254 --> 00:24:19.620
just the fact that it was a partition proceeding.

566
00:24:19.620 --> 00:24:22.230
The entire purpose of the proceeding was

567
00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:24.480
to ensure that these people who no longer

568
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.430
wish to own property together were

569
00:24:26.430 --> 00:24:29.520
no longer going to own property together.

570
00:24:29.520 --> 00:24:33.630
The proceeding was finished, by an agreement,

571
00:24:33.630 --> 00:24:36.630
which was entered as a decree of

572
00:24:36.630 --> 00:24:40.410
the probate court, and the destruction

573
00:24:40.410 --> 00:24:42.903
of the unities, severs the joint tenancy,

574
00:24:43.800 --> 00:24:45.900
the issuance of the decree, which is

575
00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:48.840
a final decree and thus a completed partition

576
00:24:48.840 --> 00:24:51.000
that severs the joint tenancy.

577
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.940
But even setting those issues aside, we still

578
00:24:53.940 --> 00:24:57.060
have a final decree of a court

579
00:24:57.060 --> 00:24:58.680
which has to be enforceable.

580
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.010
And that's under the Sommer vs Maharaj case,

581
00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:05.881
that basically the court has the authority

582
00:25:05.881 --> 00:25:10.080
to order compliance with its own orders.

583
00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:13.980
So, even if it were correct, that somehow,

584
00:25:13.980 --> 00:25:17.070
the joint tenancy survived, the destruction

585
00:25:17.070 --> 00:25:20.500
of the unities and the joint tenancy survived

586
00:25:22.175 --> 00:25:25.770
the completion of the partition.

587
00:25:25.770 --> 00:25:28.950
Even if that were correct, we still have

588
00:25:28.950 --> 00:25:32.190
a final order of a trial court that

589
00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:35.310
was not appealed from and that mandates

590
00:25:35.310 --> 00:25:37.830
that Ms. Furnace takes certain actions

591
00:25:37.830 --> 00:25:41.880
which she made absolutely no attempt

592
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:46.880
to comply with. And so, even if the joint tenancy

593
00:25:47.730 --> 00:25:49.980
were not severed it would not change

594
00:25:49.980 --> 00:25:53.250
the outcome in this case which is that

595
00:25:53.250 --> 00:25:57.120
the probate court's finding that Ms. Furnace

596
00:25:57.120 --> 00:26:00.843
was in contempt of its decree, must be affirmed.

 